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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.businessobjectstips.com/tips/server/sizing-limits-to-web-intelligence-report-server-maximum-simultaneous-connections/comment-page-1/#comment-2095</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Deno, you provided a lot of information, but I&#039;d like to know a little more.

1) Regarding &quot;2 instances&quot;, do you mean to separate Business Objects environments?  If so is this possible with XI R2?  I don&#039;t recall, its been a while.

2) What is your expected peak concurrent Web Intelligence use level?  In other words, how many WebI users do you expect at any peak time?

3) Is this server running anything else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deno, you provided a lot of information, but I&#8217;d like to know a little more.</p>
<p>1) Regarding &#8220;2 instances&#8221;, do you mean to separate Business Objects environments?  If so is this possible with XI R2?  I don&#8217;t recall, its been a while.</p>
<p>2) What is your expected peak concurrent Web Intelligence use level?  In other words, how many WebI users do you expect at any peak time?</p>
<p>3) Is this server running anything else?</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Theoren, I&#039;ve seen a lot of evidence to support your findings.  In some cases a little bit of tuning on the web app server and the database has resulted in improvements, but regardless, Business Objects Enterprise XI R2 is faster at 97% of all functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Theoren, I&#8217;ve seen a lot of evidence to support your findings.  In some cases a little bit of tuning on the web app server and the database has resulted in improvements, but regardless, Business Objects Enterprise XI R2 is faster at 97% of all functions.</p>
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		<title>By: Deno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Julian.

I was wondering if you or anyone else has recommendations on how many WebI Servers and connections per Webi Server is best for the following on R2:

4 quad core CPU’s
12 cores total (we disabled 4 cores because of licensing)
64RAM
2 instances

I appreciate your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Julian.</p>
<p>I was wondering if you or anyone else has recommendations on how many WebI Servers and connections per Webi Server is best for the following on R2:</p>
<p>4 quad core CPU’s<br />
12 cores total (we disabled 4 cores because of licensing)<br />
64RAM<br />
2 instances</p>
<p>I appreciate your help.</p>
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		<title>By: Theoren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theoren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Julian,

I&#039;ve done benchmark tests between XI 3.1 SP3 and XI R2 thanks to JMeter. 
Because I want to upgrade my BO. 

And the results are alarming. 
I worked with two Windows platform (one R2, one 3.1) that have the same physical configuration : 
4CPU, 1CMS, 1WebIReportServer

Let&#039;s focus on the following scenario : 
Login 
Loop 15 times =&gt; Open a report 
Logoff 

Test properties : 
Ramp-Up Period (in seconds) = 150 
Duration = 600 
LoopCount = Forever 

Results Average (seconds) 
For 1 thread : 
Login	R2 = 0,260	
Login 3.1 = 2,731 
OPEN R2 = 1,014 
OPEN 3.1 = 2,061
Logoff R2 = 0,127	
Logoff 3.1 = 0,363 


For 20 threads : 
Login	R2 = 0,146	
Login 3.1 = 2,702 
OPEN R2 = 1,101 
OPEN 3.1 = 5,245 
Logoff R2 = 0,107	
Logoff 3.1 = 0,498 


For 50 threads : 
Login	R2 = 0,266	
Login 3.1 = 2,681 
OPEN R2 = 3,720 
OPEN 3.1 = 14,179 
Logoff R2 = 0,227	
Logoff 3.1 = 0,563 


Are you surprised by that ? 
Or can you confirm these figures by your experience ? 
The 3.1 WIRS is slower than R2 WIRS ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Julian,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done benchmark tests between XI 3.1 SP3 and XI R2 thanks to JMeter.<br />
Because I want to upgrade my BO. </p>
<p>And the results are alarming.<br />
I worked with two Windows platform (one R2, one 3.1) that have the same physical configuration :<br />
4CPU, 1CMS, 1WebIReportServer</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s focus on the following scenario :<br />
Login<br />
Loop 15 times =&gt; Open a report<br />
Logoff </p>
<p>Test properties :<br />
Ramp-Up Period (in seconds) = 150<br />
Duration = 600<br />
LoopCount = Forever </p>
<p>Results Average (seconds)<br />
For 1 thread :<br />
Login	R2 = 0,260<br />
Login 3.1 = 2,731<br />
OPEN R2 = 1,014<br />
OPEN 3.1 = 2,061<br />
Logoff R2 = 0,127<br />
Logoff 3.1 = 0,363 </p>
<p>For 20 threads :<br />
Login	R2 = 0,146<br />
Login 3.1 = 2,702<br />
OPEN R2 = 1,101<br />
OPEN 3.1 = 5,245<br />
Logoff R2 = 0,107<br />
Logoff 3.1 = 0,498 </p>
<p>For 50 threads :<br />
Login	R2 = 0,266<br />
Login 3.1 = 2,681<br />
OPEN R2 = 3,720<br />
OPEN 3.1 = 14,179<br />
Logoff R2 = 0,227<br />
Logoff 3.1 = 0,563 </p>
<p>Are you surprised by that ?<br />
Or can you confirm these figures by your experience ?<br />
The 3.1 WIRS is slower than R2 WIRS ??</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chaitanya, thanks for the feedback.  For those users you only need the following (assuming only WebI/Designer is used):
&gt; 1 Tomcat Instance (or WebLogic/WebSphere)
&gt; 1 CMS
&gt; 2 WebI servers (set to handle 50 requests each, 3 WebI would be better)
&gt; 1 Input FRS
&gt; 1 Output FRS
&gt; 1 Destination Job Server
&gt; 1 WebI/Adaptive Job Server
&gt; 1 Event Server (if they use events only)
&gt; 1 Program Job Server (for you to be able to schedule scripts and executables, if you want)

A server with 4 core (1 quad core CPU, or 2 dual-core CPUs) could probably handle this, but having 6 or more cores would be better.  4 GB of RAM would be good.  You will need at least 40 GB of storage, but more would be nice for times when extra logging is needed.  Of course, it would be better if you could have two boxes and have each house at least 1 of each kind of server (for high-availability).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chaitanya, thanks for the feedback.  For those users you only need the following (assuming only WebI/Designer is used):<br />
&gt; 1 Tomcat Instance (or WebLogic/WebSphere)<br />
&gt; 1 CMS<br />
&gt; 2 WebI servers (set to handle 50 requests each, 3 WebI would be better)<br />
&gt; 1 Input FRS<br />
&gt; 1 Output FRS<br />
&gt; 1 Destination Job Server<br />
&gt; 1 WebI/Adaptive Job Server<br />
&gt; 1 Event Server (if they use events only)<br />
> 1 Program Job Server (for you to be able to schedule scripts and executables, if you want)</p>
<p>A server with 4 core (1 quad core CPU, or 2 dual-core CPUs) could probably handle this, but having 6 or more cores would be better.  4 GB of RAM would be good.  You will need at least 40 GB of storage, but more would be nice for times when extra logging is needed.  Of course, it would be better if you could have two boxes and have each house at least 1 of each kind of server (for high-availability).</p>
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		<title>By: Chaitanya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaitanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Julian,

Your article is really interesting &amp; seems very useful. Let me just mention my query here, I have my client with total 75 USERS out of them 25 would be Advanced users with Ad-Hoc data analysis capabilities &amp; rest 50 would just be responsible to view those designed reports. All these 75 users would be concurrently accessing the server &amp; will also include designing of reports &amp; refresh.

I would really appreciate if you could kindly provide me insights on server sizing.

Awaiting response,
Chaitanya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Julian,</p>
<p>Your article is really interesting &amp; seems very useful. Let me just mention my query here, I have my client with total 75 USERS out of them 25 would be Advanced users with Ad-Hoc data analysis capabilities &amp; rest 50 would just be responsible to view those designed reports. All these 75 users would be concurrently accessing the server &amp; will also include designing of reports &amp; refresh.</p>
<p>I would really appreciate if you could kindly provide me insights on server sizing.</p>
<p>Awaiting response,<br />
Chaitanya</p>
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		<title>By: Nickie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Julian,

Thank you for quick reply,
Currently we have maximum jobs set to 15.
we usually monitor them through task manager as you specified but what i guess is they seem to be dead inside and queued up.
so to overcome this situation we would like to set up Probes to poll on specific criteria.

Just wanted to know if any one has done monitoring other than through task manager?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Julian,</p>
<p>Thank you for quick reply,<br />
Currently we have maximum jobs set to 15.<br />
we usually monitor them through task manager as you specified but what i guess is they seem to be dead inside and queued up.<br />
so to overcome this situation we would like to set up Probes to poll on specific criteria.</p>
<p>Just wanted to know if any one has done monitoring other than through task manager?</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 12:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nickie, If you want to process more jobs in your job server&#039;s queue you need to increase the number the job server can process.  By default this is set to &quot;5&quot;.  Try pushing this up, but not too much of course.

Monitoring is a very different topic.  The best you can do is to monitor the executables for the job server and the 3 WebI server.  Assuming you are running on Windows then you would merely need to login to the server and look at Task Manager to get the exact process names.  It would be best if you could monitor that all 3 WIRS and the 1 job server are always up.  If you wanted to monitor functionality then you would have to find a way to combine your jobs with an event or program job that would write out a file for your monitor to check on.  I am interested to see if anyone else has any recommendations on monitoring WebI and Job servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nickie, If you want to process more jobs in your job server&#8217;s queue you need to increase the number the job server can process.  By default this is set to &#8220;5&#8243;.  Try pushing this up, but not too much of course.</p>
<p>Monitoring is a very different topic.  The best you can do is to monitor the executables for the job server and the 3 WebI server.  Assuming you are running on Windows then you would merely need to login to the server and look at Task Manager to get the exact process names.  It would be best if you could monitor that all 3 WIRS and the 1 job server are always up.  If you wanted to monitor functionality then you would have to find a way to combine your jobs with an event or program job that would write out a file for your monitor to check on.  I am interested to see if anyone else has any recommendations on monitoring WebI and Job servers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nickie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,

We have scheduled WebI reports that are pending in queue and also number of jobs running in queue are low compared to jobs pending in queue.

We are planning to monitor the processes and use Probes. Can you please specify which processes to be monitiored for scheduled webI reports?

Also can you please provide me how to design the requiremnts for monitoring the processes?

Currently we have 2 CPU&#039;s and 3 WIRS.

Regards,
Nickie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>We have scheduled WebI reports that are pending in queue and also number of jobs running in queue are low compared to jobs pending in queue.</p>
<p>We are planning to monitor the processes and use Probes. Can you please specify which processes to be monitiored for scheduled webI reports?</p>
<p>Also can you please provide me how to design the requiremnts for monitoring the processes?</p>
<p>Currently we have 2 CPU&#8217;s and 3 WIRS.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Nickie</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 13:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Srini,
1) when I said ETL, I meant to say that your users are using your BO system to Extract data from the data source, in order to Transform it for Loading somewhere else.  This use of a Business Intelligence system is frowned on by all BI experts and BI admins (like yourself) should strive to discourage it where feasible.
2) By default I think all WebI processing servers have 50 sessions configured.  You can increase this, but not too far.  So if I had 40 concurrent users with a job server permitting only 5 scheduled jobs at a time, I could possibly get away with a single WebI Processing server set to 50 sessions.  Usually, you would add more processing servers if you need more than 50 and usually you have one processing server for each CPU/core as a maximum configuration.
BTW, you still have not shared any information about your configuration or requirements. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Srini,<br />
1) when I said ETL, I meant to say that your users are using your BO system to Extract data from the data source, in order to Transform it for Loading somewhere else.  This use of a Business Intelligence system is frowned on by all BI experts and BI admins (like yourself) should strive to discourage it where feasible.<br />
2) By default I think all WebI processing servers have 50 sessions configured.  You can increase this, but not too far.  So if I had 40 concurrent users with a job server permitting only 5 scheduled jobs at a time, I could possibly get away with a single WebI Processing server set to 50 sessions.  Usually, you would add more processing servers if you need more than 50 and usually you have one processing server for each CPU/core as a maximum configuration.<br />
BTW, you still have not shared any information about your configuration or requirements. <img src='http://www.businessobjectstips.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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